Sweetpea and Xhris... please if you could read my posts once again, very carefuly. Because from reading you both i do not think you really understand my points. And its really important when we talking.
Am i a supporter of WG Program? YES for 10 years i am.
Is the WG Program just about sex for money? Not to me, i see it as a lot more important thing. But im not going to go into details what else i see in it.
Why do you both try to see me as an enemy of WG Program...? I have no idea why.
Did either of you at least try to see my point behind my posts? That perhaps i post it all in DEFENCE OF WGs? Because that is exactly what i do LOL You dont see it?
Lets get into particular quotes now...
Originally Posted by: Sweetpea 
I think it would be more interesting to know what those that are WG's think of the program. Do they find value in the program? Do they make money being a WG? Is it worth it to them to be held accountable to all the WG rules? How many active WG's are in RLC? Do they just want a badge to wear over their avatar? Are sex services the only service a WG provides?
Do you really think id post all of this if i had no idea what im talking about? Everything i ever post on forum, my opinions, comes from hours of talking to people. Listening to their stories, anger, disappointments. Everything i have posted here in this thread i take from people who talk to me. That includes WGs.
But id love all those people (WGs) who talk to me how frustrating it is right now, to come and post their opinions, what they REALLY think, you are right. So i hope this thread will bring attention of WGs who will not be afraid to speak up how disheartening it is when every girl without a badge can offer what they supposed to be the only ones allowed to offer. And men opinion that WG is bad to go with because shes a WG... a hooker, prositute, whore, better to pay a non-wg shes a cute lovely girl who probably never had a man yet haha If we speak of those REAL WGs (not girls who try to earn for a vip only), they offer a lot more than sex. They offer talk, ear to vent into, not every session means they fuck, sometimes a man just needs an ear that cares, listens, does not talk to 10 other people at the same time and answers every 10 minutes, when they talk about something very important in their lives.
Originally Posted by: Sweetpea 
So many questions to look at if you are thinking of getting rid of the WG program. Do I find value in the program, nope but then I don't use their services, but that doesn't mean that someone else wouldn't find the WG program valuable.
Why i said they should remove WG Program is because it simply does not make sense in current situation. WGs are supposed to be ONLY allowed to offer sex for money. They no longer are ONLY allowed ones. Everybody can do it, without a badge. So what is the point? Years ago only WGs were allowed to provide sex service for rays in rlc. It is not about 'is it valuable' it is all about 'does it make sense'. It doesnt, it lost its purpose. This situation is like you are an ice cream seller, everybody loves ice cream sellers, but if you wanna do it legaly you need to have a licence, you have to take care of all permissions and such. You get them all, always care of the best business you own. At the same time all around you they sell ice cream with no permissions, no tests, licences. Makes you wonder... why do you even care for your licences, doesnt it? Exacly same thing is here.
But let me use an example that is very close to you. Decorators. There used to be Licenced Decorators in rlc, there are still some. For that licence, tests, money invested they had special rights in rlc. What would you say if you did the licence, badge of Licenced Decorator, spend money, spend time, effort, in return you'd receive rights that noone else who is not an LD has. Special scripts, special permissions and such. Something you and only a very small group of people could provide. You would see that first you invest time and money, to profit from this in the future, providing service that only a handful of people in rlc can. Next day they give all those permissions, scripts to literaly everybody in rlc. How do you feel? See my point now? Please say you do.
Originally Posted by: Sweetpea 
How many times are you in trans or a private region and some random guy comes up to you and says ... "Oh baby, you are so fine. How about we go fuck". More than likely they are going to be told where to take a slow boat too. But if they chatted with a WG who knows they may just get lucky.
The whole point is that in the past they had to talk to a WG if they wanted sex and wanted to pay for the service. Only a complete dummy approaches stranger and offers sex just like that but hey there are plenty of dummies on rlc so that happens all the time. This is not the point. WGs are important and needed. When their rights are protected, now they are not. When every girl can approach a guy and tell them she wanna fuck for rays, WGs lose the whole point of being here, what do they need a badge for? They can remove the badge and do the same thing without it. And let me just tell you (because oh yes i do know that) there are men who tell WGs "I will pay you but if you remove the badge". WG CANT do this, its a violation of WG Program. They have to say no and lose a potential session, equals money, equals purpose of their being here as a WG. At the same time this guy approaches a girl who stands next to them and pays her and they leave, just because one has a badge and other doesnt. Is this normal situation to you? For me it is not and this is why i am here, posting my thing.
Originally Posted by: Sweetpea 
Value is in the eye of the beholder (yeah I know that is usually beauty, but it kind of fits). Each persons idea of value is different, so without knowing what value the WG or their clients think of the program, I disagree that it is no longer a viable program.
And i know what they think, they told me, many of them (but of course i didnt talk to 100% of WGs in rlc, some may think different, i say what i know and was told about, asking questions to the person who supposed to stand for the WGs and defend their rights but she does not - Gwynevere). It is a sick situation when every girl can offer what they wear a badge for. Do i think the WG Program is valuable? Of course it is, when they bring back the rules that make it valuable. For now its pointless.
Originally Posted by: Mrs_Xhris_SD_1 
Just my thoughts as we are supporters of the WG Program and our club <XD's Club Gold> is a WG Friendly club. Any WG working at XD's must adhere to the rules otherwise they will be summarily booted and banned from returning.
Xhris, this is not about WGs that do not adhere to the rules. It is about all the girls who are NOT WGs. So the question you should rather answer is what do you do when you have 5 WGs in your venue that respect the WG codex and 10 other NON-WGs solicit people in your club. Do you allow all 15 to do their thing or only WGs and those who are not WGs are asked to not do it, because at least in theory of RLC rules selling sex for rays without a badge is a violation. But hey there are many dead laws in RoC and ToS that are constantly violated and nobody gives a damn, ESPECIALLY WorldOps lol
Originally Posted by: Mrs_Xhris_SD_1 
There is most definitely a place in RLC for the WG community not to mention it is an icon of RLC's early years. Does it need modernization to be compatible with the current RLC membership? Yes. A WG serves a multitude of purposes, not the least of which are freedom and confidentiality.
Of course there is and of course it is one of the icons of rlc. And it should be respected and protected as one. But it is not. WG Program is a joke right now. And all my posts earlier are there to stand for the WGs who sacrifice something in order to get something else, and nowadays EVERYBODY else gets it without any sacrifice, so whats the point in the WGs sacrifice? There is none.
Originally Posted by: Mrs_Xhris_SD_1 
Like me, many of us have never utilized this service nor will we, but there are many members who do and why disenfranchise more of our population by removing the WG program?
See, and this phrase means you didnt really read my posts with understanding, picked one catchy thing to disagree with. So let me ask you... you are a club owner... You have a UV Business badge, right? You pay for it to have it and to gain several things that come with it, such as special venue templates, option to own a door in RLC Street and so on. Tomorrow RLC decides that everybody in RLC has a UV Business badge for free, all special venues reserved to UV Business only, are also free for everybody and they all can have a door in RLC Street. How do you feel Xhris? And more importantly, are you going to keep paying for your UV Business badge when everybody else has it free and so you can?
I hope that explains my point clear enough.
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