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Gwynevere_RLC
#1 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2020 4:33:25 PM(UTC)


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Hello Lovelies!

You will notice some changes to your WG badges on your home page!

For those WGs who are not verifed you will be having a badge of WG.

For those WGs who are verified with gender, photo, and age you will be have
Working Girl
Working Guy

Adult Star are for those wgs who are models/ cam / performers in the adult industry and are required to use their performance name.

Adult Starlet badge is no longer.

The + on either side of the WG Tags is now gone. There were some glitches with the red star which was causing issues so for now that has been removed.

We are implementing some new exciting badges (more information on those coming in the near future)!

Any questions, please post here or you may contact me directly or wg@redlightcenter.com

The WG Team
agnyeshka
#2 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2020 9:39:51 PM(UTC)


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Originally Posted by: Gwynevere_RLC Go to Quoted Post
There were some glitches with the red star which was causing issues so for now that has been removed.

What glitches did these stars cause, because i never heard about this or seen any glitch like this. I dunno, for me red stars looked cool and WGs were easy to be noticed thanks to them. Why to change things that did their job right for 13 years. Why to create many badges for the same thing? Isnt it better to put your efforts into something that really matters and may make things better for everybody. All of this you just posted here makes no sense, sorry.
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2020 7:02:58 AM(UTC)

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Originally Posted by: Gwynevere_RLC Go to Quoted Post
Hello Lovelies!

You will notice some changes to your WG badges on your home page!

For those WGs who are not verifed you will be having a badge of WG.

For those WGs who are verified with gender, photo, and age you will be have
Working Girl
Working Guy

Adult Star are for those wgs who are models/ cam / performers in the adult industry and are required to use their performance name.

Adult Starlet badge is no longer.

The + on either side of the WG Tags is now gone. There were some glitches with the red star which was causing issues so for now that has been removed.

We are implementing some new exciting badges (more information on those coming in the near future)!

Any questions, please post here or you may contact me directly or wg@redlightcenter.com

The WG Team



It would be nice if the staff would do the verification when ppl send in there stuff to get verified and if the system worked were you could. i sent my ids and pics in over 5 years ago and still have yet to get it. guess i was not part of the staff friends list.
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2020 7:07:26 AM(UTC)

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Originally Posted by: agnyeshka Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Gwynevere_RLC Go to Quoted Post
There were some glitches with the red star which was causing issues so for now that has been removed.

What glitches did these stars cause, because i never heard about this or seen any glitch like this. I dunno, for me red stars looked cool and WGs were easy to be noticed thanks to them. Why to change things that did their job right for 13 years. Why to create many badges for the same thing? Isnt it better to put your efforts into something that really matters and may make things better for everybody. All of this you just posted here makes no sense, sorry.



I know when i was wearing mine and loved it btw. it started to glitch the last couple of months agny after rlc started to do there "updating" ( use that term loosly ) i could wear double badges, the star would be down in the middle of my name, wouldn't come off when i changed from badge to badge, i would have the star but not what it was for so it was kinda cool when it would glitch with my business tag at the same time, the + signs stopped showing up just to name a few that happend to me. agree it was working fine till they started to tinker with it and now everything has gone nutty over the last 1 year.
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agnyeshka
#5 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2020 11:38:01 AM(UTC)


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Thank you Rebel, now i get it. I think it is 'typical RLC'. And even WG system could not stay safe from 'typical rlc'. What i mean by 'typical rlc' is when for many years everything works fine, Staff stays away from it, chasing Oasis/Curio dreams and do not mess up the real place where people are. Once they turn their attention back to RLC and start thinking of what they can break, ermm i mean what they can add/improve/make better than it was, worst things happen. They implement changes that break things which worked fine for many years and either have no clue how to fix it or just go for the easiest, fastest and least accurate solutions. Why to fix the issue, why to even revert the change to what it was before the lastest update and then work 'off the system' to make sure the change, "an improvement" wont damage everything... Better to just remove good things that got broken and keep the lastest 'epic' changes that not only do not add anything good but yet break good things that worked.

This is what happens when people who are let to mess with the code are not the original creators of this code, this is what happens when people who create something are fired or leave and people with no clue of what they step into get to edit and change what they did not create. This is the price for hiring misfits and let them mess with what they have no clue about.

"Typical rlc', and what they do now? When someone has a few badges and they stay in conflict, causing glitches - typical rlc solution : lets create a lot more badges yet! What may possibly go wrong, right, right??? hahaha
Just like with lastest dimensions 'improvement' that supposed to get people together, it caused many people lost alone in rlc with no clue of what happened and what Staff wanna do is to create more dimensions yet haha

The best favor Staff could do for the people of rlc would be to stay the hell away from us, go back to Curio aka Oasis and make their fantastic experiements there, it would bother noone, because noone is there, they could change and 'fix' what isnt broken for the rest of their lives there and it would not affect anyone.

It is pathetic and hilarious at the same time. I would not lend a metal ball to rlc staff cuz they would break it.
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Sweetpea
#6 Posted : Friday, June 26, 2020 6:05:49 PM(UTC)


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Change isn't always easy to accept, but we seem to whine about things needing to be changed but when it happens we whine because it was changed and it wasn't what we wanted changed.

So many of the things that are being changed are small things, holy hannah if we can't accept the small changes how on earth are we going to prepare for the bigger changes.

It has to start somewhere, and I'm happy that they are starting to make changes (whispers under my breath... grrr... even when they don't work).

Without change there is no growth, look what has happened to RLC since they tried Curio/Oasis and let RLC flounder. So many members have either left for other virtual worlds or just left period.

I had to take a development seminar at work last year about change, and this was one of the quotes they had on the board about change.

“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”. ~John Lydgate

I know it is an old quote, but when it comes to change it still fits.
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agnyeshka
#7 Posted : Saturday, June 27, 2020 11:30:59 AM(UTC)


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This is not about accepting any changes, small or big. This is about a complete lack of understanding for the current situation of WG program represented by Gwynevere in here. But i dont even blame her, since she failed to answer a simple question about the sense of several new badges for a few last days, i understand she is only a kind of annoucement tube for the decisions made by someone else and she is not in charge of anything really WG program related. Too bad.

What is the real problem WG program is facing is basicaly the fact WG program has lost its sense in current circumstances. Almost every ho in porn theaters and other sex themed venues offers sex for rays without a badge, which in past years was forbidden and any girl who was soliciting a sex service without a badge had to deal with a few days of suspension from RLC world. Apparently right now selling sex service without a badge is no longer a violation, otherwise so many women would not do this so openly. What i was told is that in privat venues owners make their own rules and UV has no say in what is happening there. And thats ridiculous because right now 100% of sex venues that have any traffic is owned by privat people. Bareback Bordello is dead since ages and will remain dead.

So i want to form a question, what sense does it make to have WG Program nowadays? Working Girls/Guys have strict rules they need to follow, it has been that way since the beginning of this program. WG Program has been created for protection, both WGs and their customers. Exactly because of those rules WGs need to follow. Customers should feel safe with WGs, should know that if they try to scam them in any way, they can report this WG and she gets in trouble for breaking the codex. When they go with a girl without a badge and they send them money, then the girl iggies them... their loss, Utherverse will not move one finger to help a scammed guy. This is not possible with WGs.

Women who decide to put on a WG badge agree to certain reality they step into with a WG above their head. They are aware that they cant just go anywhere with this badge on, they need to be careful where they go, where they are not welcome or even are unwanted. Where they risk to be told to leave or even get booted with no warning. Oh hell i know that because even hosting 1 party a week i am approached by WGs several times a month and they ask me can they stay here, is it ok to have their badge on, they just wanna hang out and do not mean to do any harm. They are scared that they will be kicked out and banned just because they have a badge on. This tells me what happens in other clubs. But its nothing new, it has ALWAYS been that way. WGs accept this situation once they decide to put the badge on. They will not be having a big choice on where to go, it is their choice and in return they gain a right to solicit, offer sex for rays in pms. This is the only sense of having this badge on.

So now, when so many non-wgs offer sex for money and they are allowed to do this, they can basicaly go anywhere and do it. And from what im told most men prefer to pay a non-wg for sex than a WG because in their believe (as stupid as it sounds) approaching and taking a session with a WG is 'taking a prostitute' and thats againts their man pride... but at the same time it is completely fine to pay for sex with a girl who is not wearing a badge.. Ya.. cuz those two things are completely different, cuz the same thing without a badge is no longer prostitution LOL

Also there are privat brothels where owners not only do not demand from their girls to wear a WG badge at all time they work but even forbid these girls to wear badges, because this way in their believe they can get more customers... cuz as i mentioned above, men are stupid and think that when they pay a WG its prostitution and they are too proud to do it, but are happy to pay for sex without a badge because thats a whole different thing rofl

This is a real problem WG Program is facing. But instead of looking into this and bringing back the rules that would fix this situation and make WG Program reasonable thing, they focus on completely pointless bullshit such as several new badges for WGs. Thats useless cosmetics, as i said in another thread, all Staff is doing is painting a pretty flower on a wall while the whole house is burning.
Hooker is a hooker, doesnt matter how many fancy words one comes up with to name it.

Time to deal with the real problems, not pretending that they doing something. Because right now i feel truely sorry for the WGs because they resign from many things and receive abolutely nothing in return. Except maybe for angry comments from bitches who feel insecure with them around. So whats the point of having the WG Program, Gwynevere, hmm? Pls take that question to your principals, and perhaps its time to remove this program as whole, unless you as Utherverse care to look into this and bring back the old rules which used to grant the WG Program any sense. Because right now WG Program is basicaly pointless while anyone without a badge can do it and they get bigger interest than WGs just because they are 'not WGs'.
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Gwynevere_RLC
#8 Posted : Tuesday, June 30, 2020 2:42:17 PM(UTC)


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There are changes being made to the WG Program. The new badge system is in place. The star was causing issues with glitching; so for the time being this have been removed. Glitches occurring were the star would remain and the WG tag would remove when taking on or off the badge along with other glitches.


We also are in the process of implementing other new badge names that the WG community requested. More information on that will be coming in the near future.

The BareBack Bordello is getting a complete makeover , new region new look. This project is nearing completion and events will happen in the future.

WGs must adhere to the WG RoC. When working in UV / RLC owned regions where badges are allowed and show, wgs are to wear their badges and solicite in private PM.

As far as private VWWs, it is at the VWW owner's discretion on how they like to utilize or allow the WG badges in their region. Although we encourage private VWWs to be on board with WGs utuilizing a WG badge, it is not a rule that is mandated at this time.

If any WG is in violation of the WG RoC, we encourage members to screenshot and send all pertinent information to wg@redlightcenter.com.
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, June 30, 2020 4:57:25 PM(UTC)

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Gwynevere_RLC is there a way to make a sticky point in this section for Pvt business can read what the full rules are so they know what the WG's must follow??? I'm not sure if yall have done it and i know you guys sent it to use when we all signed up for the badge but things i am sure have changed over the years rules wise. just idea is all.
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, June 30, 2020 5:11:51 PM(UTC)


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A private VWW can make rules as they like governing their world, as long as they are in tune with the UV/ RLC ToS.

Regarding WG RoC, if you like to make a rule that anyone doing sex work must utilize the WG Badge, you can adopt the WG RoC which can be found here.


WG Rules of Conduct
If you do not abide by the guidelines outlined below, your Working Girl/Guy Badge may be removed by Utherverse® World Operations, and further appropriate action against your associated accounts will be considered without refund.

Link to WG RoC

WG RoC



These rules apply to all WGs:
- You must be a VIP or UVIP member to become a Working Girl or Guy.
- You must wear your WG or Adult Star(let) badge at all times when you are working. Do not solicit without your badge.
- You are only allowed to solicit in certain areas of Red Light Center. These areas are listed in the wiki article and can be requested through the ticket system.
- You are only allowed to solicit in Private Message. Do not solicit your WG services in General Chat.
- Be considerate of your fellow WGs; attempts to discredit a WG’s profile or name will not be tolerated.
- Be aware of and abide by the Red Light Center Rules of Conduct and Terms of Service at all times.
- Respect each other, Utherverse Staff and Volunteers.
- Deception of clients will not be tolerated.
- If services are not provided in full, you must refund the client. No exceptions.
- Absolutely no hardcore content (visible genital nudity and/or penetration) is allowed in photos.

Verified WGs are held to a stricter standard, as they are endorsed Red Light Center.
agnyeshka
#11 Posted : Tuesday, June 30, 2020 6:33:35 PM(UTC)


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Well geee, thanks for the answer Gwynevere... I have a legitimate question yet...

Is one of the new WG badges 'I am a fool"? Because there should be. Because sadly it is what it is.
WGs restrict themselves where they can go, restrict themselves what they can do, restrict themselves how much interest from customers they get and pay rays for this all LOL
At the same time everybody who is not a WG is allowed to do exactly what they do AND A LOT MORE, solicit, offer sex for money, go anywhere (which WGs cant), take advantage of the girls who wear a WG badge due to the fact men rather tend to pay for sex with someone without the badge than a WG, and everybody doesnt need to pay for having a badge.

For those simple facts, you should implement a badge for WGs "I am a fool", i hope its in progress.

Seriously, Gwynevere, PLEASE... name here below 1.. JUST ONE reason why a girl who wanna earn rays from having sex should register a WG badge for this purpose.
Considering the facts that she can do it without a badge, she can go anywhere without a badge, she will have much bigger interest from men without a badge than wearing it, she doesnt have to pay for premium program (yes i know there is a free program as well now and they can have a wg directory page for free too).
Name one reason why a girl should register a WG badge, accept to follow all the rules listed above, when she can do all that WGs do, but without following any rules and without any limits where she can go.
Wearing a WG badge is like locking yourself up in one corner and paying for it, while everybody else enjoys whole world for free and do whatever they please wherever they want. Tell me thats not being a fool.

There is absolutely NO reason for WG Program to continue. When it has been created, there were only RLC owned regions such as Bareback, Fantasy Hotel or Nightcandy and more. Those places are gone for many years. Back then it used to make sense. There were no privat regions that stand above the law when it comes to WG Program. Now with only privat venues active where all the WG rules do not apply there is absolutely no reason for WG Program to exist. Unless you list below reasonable advantages a WG obtains by wearing her badge. Because id really like to know them. I cant see any right now. Help me understand why are you here lol
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Sweetpea
#12 Posted : Wednesday, July 01, 2020 2:46:38 PM(UTC)


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Don't know much about WG's, never used their services, never wanted to be one.

I think it would be more interesting to know what those that are WG's think of the program. Do they find value in the program? Do they make money being a WG? Is it worth it to them to be held accountable to all the WG rules? How many active WG's are in RLC? Do they just want a badge to wear over their avatar? Are sex services the only service a WG provides?

So many questions to look at if you are thinking of getting rid of the WG program. Do I find value in the program, nope but then I don't use their services, but that doesn't mean that someone else wouldn't find the WG program valuable.

How many times are you in trans or a private region and some random guy comes up to you and says ... "Oh baby, you are so fine. How about we go fuck". More than likely they are going to be told where to take a slow boat too. But if they chatted with a WG who knows they may just get lucky.

Value is in the eye of the beholder (yeah I know that is usually beauty, but it kind of fits). Each persons idea of value is different, so without knowing what value the WG or their clients think of the program, I disagree that it is no longer a viable program.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, July 02, 2020 7:24:44 AM(UTC)

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Just my thoughts as we are supporters of the WG Program and our club <XD's Club Gold> is a WG Friendly club. Any WG working at XD's must adhere to the rules otherwise they will be summarily booted and banned from returning.

There is most definitely a place in RLC for the WG community not to mention it is an icon of RLC's early years. Does it need modernization to be compatible with the current RLC membership? Yes. A WG serves a multitude of purposes, not the least of which are freedom and confidentiality. It is a consumer choice. Just like who gets hired to dance at a club or DJ at an event. The consumer dictates and decides the value of services or not. Just as we members are asking for change and growth, this segment of our community has every right to upgrade and grow.

Like me, many of us have never utilized this service nor will we, but there are many members who do and why disenfranchise more of our population by removing the WG program?

My .02 as I see it.

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#14 Posted : Thursday, July 02, 2020 5:44:21 PM(UTC)


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Sweetpea and Xhris... please if you could read my posts once again, very carefuly. Because from reading you both i do not think you really understand my points. And its really important when we talking.

Am i a supporter of WG Program? YES for 10 years i am.
Is the WG Program just about sex for money? Not to me, i see it as a lot more important thing. But im not going to go into details what else i see in it.
Why do you both try to see me as an enemy of WG Program...? I have no idea why.

Did either of you at least try to see my point behind my posts? That perhaps i post it all in DEFENCE OF WGs? Because that is exactly what i do LOL You dont see it?

Lets get into particular quotes now...

Originally Posted by: Sweetpea Go to Quoted Post
I think it would be more interesting to know what those that are WG's think of the program. Do they find value in the program? Do they make money being a WG? Is it worth it to them to be held accountable to all the WG rules? How many active WG's are in RLC? Do they just want a badge to wear over their avatar? Are sex services the only service a WG provides?

Do you really think id post all of this if i had no idea what im talking about? Everything i ever post on forum, my opinions, comes from hours of talking to people. Listening to their stories, anger, disappointments. Everything i have posted here in this thread i take from people who talk to me. That includes WGs.
But id love all those people (WGs) who talk to me how frustrating it is right now, to come and post their opinions, what they REALLY think, you are right. So i hope this thread will bring attention of WGs who will not be afraid to speak up how disheartening it is when every girl without a badge can offer what they supposed to be the only ones allowed to offer. And men opinion that WG is bad to go with because shes a WG... a hooker, prositute, whore, better to pay a non-wg shes a cute lovely girl who probably never had a man yet haha If we speak of those REAL WGs (not girls who try to earn for a vip only), they offer a lot more than sex. They offer talk, ear to vent into, not every session means they fuck, sometimes a man just needs an ear that cares, listens, does not talk to 10 other people at the same time and answers every 10 minutes, when they talk about something very important in their lives.

Originally Posted by: Sweetpea Go to Quoted Post
So many questions to look at if you are thinking of getting rid of the WG program. Do I find value in the program, nope but then I don't use their services, but that doesn't mean that someone else wouldn't find the WG program valuable.

Why i said they should remove WG Program is because it simply does not make sense in current situation. WGs are supposed to be ONLY allowed to offer sex for money. They no longer are ONLY allowed ones. Everybody can do it, without a badge. So what is the point? Years ago only WGs were allowed to provide sex service for rays in rlc. It is not about 'is it valuable' it is all about 'does it make sense'. It doesnt, it lost its purpose. This situation is like you are an ice cream seller, everybody loves ice cream sellers, but if you wanna do it legaly you need to have a licence, you have to take care of all permissions and such. You get them all, always care of the best business you own. At the same time all around you they sell ice cream with no permissions, no tests, licences. Makes you wonder... why do you even care for your licences, doesnt it? Exacly same thing is here.
But let me use an example that is very close to you. Decorators. There used to be Licenced Decorators in rlc, there are still some. For that licence, tests, money invested they had special rights in rlc. What would you say if you did the licence, badge of Licenced Decorator, spend money, spend time, effort, in return you'd receive rights that noone else who is not an LD has. Special scripts, special permissions and such. Something you and only a very small group of people could provide. You would see that first you invest time and money, to profit from this in the future, providing service that only a handful of people in rlc can. Next day they give all those permissions, scripts to literaly everybody in rlc. How do you feel? See my point now? Please say you do.

Originally Posted by: Sweetpea Go to Quoted Post
How many times are you in trans or a private region and some random guy comes up to you and says ... "Oh baby, you are so fine. How about we go fuck". More than likely they are going to be told where to take a slow boat too. But if they chatted with a WG who knows they may just get lucky.

The whole point is that in the past they had to talk to a WG if they wanted sex and wanted to pay for the service. Only a complete dummy approaches stranger and offers sex just like that but hey there are plenty of dummies on rlc so that happens all the time. This is not the point. WGs are important and needed. When their rights are protected, now they are not. When every girl can approach a guy and tell them she wanna fuck for rays, WGs lose the whole point of being here, what do they need a badge for? They can remove the badge and do the same thing without it. And let me just tell you (because oh yes i do know that) there are men who tell WGs "I will pay you but if you remove the badge". WG CANT do this, its a violation of WG Program. They have to say no and lose a potential session, equals money, equals purpose of their being here as a WG. At the same time this guy approaches a girl who stands next to them and pays her and they leave, just because one has a badge and other doesnt. Is this normal situation to you? For me it is not and this is why i am here, posting my thing.

Originally Posted by: Sweetpea Go to Quoted Post
Value is in the eye of the beholder (yeah I know that is usually beauty, but it kind of fits). Each persons idea of value is different, so without knowing what value the WG or their clients think of the program, I disagree that it is no longer a viable program.

And i know what they think, they told me, many of them (but of course i didnt talk to 100% of WGs in rlc, some may think different, i say what i know and was told about, asking questions to the person who supposed to stand for the WGs and defend their rights but she does not - Gwynevere). It is a sick situation when every girl can offer what they wear a badge for. Do i think the WG Program is valuable? Of course it is, when they bring back the rules that make it valuable. For now its pointless.


Originally Posted by: Mrs_Xhris_SD_1 Go to Quoted Post
Just my thoughts as we are supporters of the WG Program and our club <XD's Club Gold> is a WG Friendly club. Any WG working at XD's must adhere to the rules otherwise they will be summarily booted and banned from returning.

Xhris, this is not about WGs that do not adhere to the rules. It is about all the girls who are NOT WGs. So the question you should rather answer is what do you do when you have 5 WGs in your venue that respect the WG codex and 10 other NON-WGs solicit people in your club. Do you allow all 15 to do their thing or only WGs and those who are not WGs are asked to not do it, because at least in theory of RLC rules selling sex for rays without a badge is a violation. But hey there are many dead laws in RoC and ToS that are constantly violated and nobody gives a damn, ESPECIALLY WorldOps lol

Originally Posted by: Mrs_Xhris_SD_1 Go to Quoted Post
There is most definitely a place in RLC for the WG community not to mention it is an icon of RLC's early years. Does it need modernization to be compatible with the current RLC membership? Yes. A WG serves a multitude of purposes, not the least of which are freedom and confidentiality.

Of course there is and of course it is one of the icons of rlc. And it should be respected and protected as one. But it is not. WG Program is a joke right now. And all my posts earlier are there to stand for the WGs who sacrifice something in order to get something else, and nowadays EVERYBODY else gets it without any sacrifice, so whats the point in the WGs sacrifice? There is none.

Originally Posted by: Mrs_Xhris_SD_1 Go to Quoted Post
Like me, many of us have never utilized this service nor will we, but there are many members who do and why disenfranchise more of our population by removing the WG program?

See, and this phrase means you didnt really read my posts with understanding, picked one catchy thing to disagree with. So let me ask you... you are a club owner... You have a UV Business badge, right? You pay for it to have it and to gain several things that come with it, such as special venue templates, option to own a door in RLC Street and so on. Tomorrow RLC decides that everybody in RLC has a UV Business badge for free, all special venues reserved to UV Business only, are also free for everybody and they all can have a door in RLC Street. How do you feel Xhris? And more importantly, are you going to keep paying for your UV Business badge when everybody else has it free and so you can?
I hope that explains my point clear enough.
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#15 Posted : Thursday, July 02, 2020 6:32:21 PM(UTC)

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#16 Posted : Wednesday, July 15, 2020 5:48:12 PM(UTC)

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Hello, how do I deactivate my WG status? I've tried checking the links, but it seems there's a glitch someplace and none of the links work.

Thank you!
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#17 Posted : Friday, July 17, 2020 6:10:27 AM(UTC)

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Originally Posted by: Rraffi Go to Quoted Post
Hello, how do I deactivate my WG status? I've tried checking the links, but it seems there's a glitch someplace and none of the links work.

Thank you!




contact SaphyreRose she will be able to help you best.

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#18 Posted : Saturday, July 18, 2020 5:45:53 PM(UTC)


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Hello
I do think I got all the posts #s right. Questions in italics; response in green. Enjoy



Post #2 Agnyeshka wrote
What glitches did these stars cause, because i never heard about this or seen any glitch like this. I dunno, for me red stars looked cool and WGs were easy to be noticed thanks to them. Why to change things that did their job right for 13 years. Why to create many badges for the same thing? Isnt it better to put your efforts into something that really matters and may make things better for everybody. All of this you just posted here makes no sense, sorry.


Answer:
There were glitches with the badges; unless you donned a badge you would not know or experience it. Those glitches were reported and are being addressed as well as others. What we might all like to forget with COVID 19, we are all faced to address a different work situation which for many means remote. Show us the same patience and politeness you like for those to show you in this pandemic situation - that is not to much to ask . We are doing the best we can; and yes there is always room for improvement. Again we are working hard.

.

DJ_REbel_cowgirl Post #3
It would be nice if the staff would do the verification when ppl send in there stuff to get verified and if the system worked were you could. i sent my ids and pics in over 5 years ago and still have yet to get it. guess i was not part of the staff friends list.


Answer: From five years ago, I do not know if that is still in the system. I would advise to re-verify. Please fill out a support ticket for that or email wg@redlightcenter.com or contact me directly and I can farther advise you.


Post #11 Agnyeshka wrote
Is one of the new WG badges 'I am a fool"? Because there should be. Because sadly it is what it is.






Answer : No that is not one of the badges that was discussed or requested from the WG meeting in the late part of May nor any part of the WG / Client Survey that was all over RLC .

Agnyeshka wrote #11
Seriously, Gwynevere, PLEASE... name here below 1.. JUST ONE reason why a girl who wanna earn rays from having sex should register a WG badge for this purpose.

Answer: If she / he like to have a legtimate and supported WG profile and be recognized by clients as legtimate then that is why to enlist.

Agnyeshka wrote Post #7
This is not about accepting any changes, small or big. This is about a complete lack of understanding for the current situation of WG program represented by Gwynevere in here. But i dont even blame her, since she failed to answer a simple question about the sense of several new badges for a few last days, i understand she is only a kind of annoucement tube for the decisions made by someone else and she is not in charge of anything really WG program related. Too bad.



Answer: I am no annoucement tube for anyone ; I am a WG staff member and have been for five years. My ideas and thoughts and opinions are highly valued and considered and implemented where appropriate - and you have seen them in the RLC.


You are a member and your thoughts, opinions are highly valued as well. So my question to you is - did you take the WG survey and did you attend the WG workshop in the late part of May? The notice for that was all over the RLC. If you did not take part in it; what are your sugestions for success in the WG community ? Those would be welcome in whatever part you take in that community as a friendly WG club owner , wg , or client?




Although RLC does allow for private VWW owner venues to have their own rules regarding sex worker items and if you feel those are not in the best interest of RLC; please do email worldops@redlightcenter.com and give a proposal. These are not rules the WG department makes; for those who are in Private Owned VWWs. Those rules are governed by World Ops.
I think this is all for now.


Please do remember the New Bordello is opening on the 24th of this Month - this coming Friday - we hope to see all of you there.
Enjoy
The WG Team
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agnyeshka
#19 Posted : Monday, July 20, 2020 3:11:06 PM(UTC)


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Originally Posted by: Gwynevere_RLC Go to Quoted Post

Answer:
There were glitches with the badges; unless you donned a badge you would not know or experience it. Those glitches were reported and are being addressed as well as others. What we might all like to forget with COVID 19, we are all faced to address a different work situation which for many means remote. Show us the same patience and politeness you like for those to show you in this pandemic situation - that is not to much to ask . We are doing the best we can; and yes there is always room for improvement. Again we are working hard.

I call bullshit. Do not hide your lazy ass behind covid now, because this is pretty disgusting what you just did... like seriously? OMG
You are not a plumber who cant fix a pipe remotely. This is all code, computer program, that can be edited, rewritten from any place in the world as long as they have access to the source. I know people in real life who fix whole systems remotely, its their job, sitting at home, getting info, getting access and fixing systems that are hundreds of miles away from them. And you try to tell me that something so simple like a few lines of the code cannot be fixed because of covid? You know... thousands of people died from this, i know people in rlc who suffer from covid now. Using covid as an excuse for years of your laziness (or simple lack of skills) is just disgusting as i said. And yes i said YEARS because as one of people here explained the glitch with badges was that once WG badge was changed to UV Business or was hidden, the red star was still above their head is not new. I remember this happening for last 10 years LOL All they had to do was to relog which takes literaly 15 seconds. And you come here and tell me that because of covid it takes time and play a victim and beg for understanding? Do you have any shame at all?

Originally Posted by: Gwynevere_RLC Go to Quoted Post
Answer: If she / he like to have a legtimate and supported WG profile and be recognized by clients as legtimate then that is why to enlist.

So all of it is just cosmetics. Label of legitimate while they do not have to be 'legitimate' to earn much more than as 'legitimate'. What you offer them is an illusion, illusion because of which they actualy lose a lot. Good luck with pretending you have ANYTHING to offer at all, while most of people who sell sex for rays basicaly pee on your whole 'work'.

Originally Posted by: Gwynevere_RLC Go to Quoted Post

Answer: I am no annoucement tube for anyone ; I am a WG staff member and have been for five years. My ideas and thoughts and opinions are highly valued and considered and implemented where appropriate - and you have seen them in the RLC.


Well congratulations, you wasted 5 years of your life because WG program turned into a joke in here and all you do, does not matter at all as long as anyone can fuck for rays without a badge. Your work makes no sense, all the effort you possibly make is worthless as long as i can go to any venue, approach a man and offer him to suck his dick if he sends me rays while i am not a WG. Do you see how pointless your whole existance in here is? Or do you refuse to open your eyes and admit... yes i suck (not as a WG should) and i must do something to fix the current situation. Currently you are like an used car salesman in a world where everybody receives a brand new car for a few bucks. Dont you see this?

If as you say your opinions are highly valued and considered and implemented where appropriate, WHY the heck dont you use your 'power' to fix the current situation with the WG business in rlc? Why are you sitting and playing a big shot and do absolutely nothing. All you do is finding new sophisticated words for a whore. To pet hookers ego who requested to be called courtesans even tho most of them probably have no idea what that word even means and who were courtesans and how highly educated, smart and intelligent one had to be to become one. I said it above, hooker is a hooker, no need to call it fancy way, the sooner you and the others understand it, the better because calling a potato 'heavenly bulb sent from gawd to feed the people of the most beautiful planet in the universe' will not change the fact its still a potato.

So Gwynevere, why dont you cut the bullshit and start doing something that will have a real impact on the WG Business in rlc? Something that will finaly fix the current situation that basicaly destroyed this program. Something that will make world work as it supposed to. Stop pretending how big work you make and how your opinions do matter and are valued until you use your 'well respected' position to fix the WG Business condition. Until then you are nothing but a figure, a statue that stands there, looks pretty, people pass you by and thats it. You have a chance to do something serious. Its up to you if you decide to act and be an hero or you decide to sit back and watch as WG Business dies. Because it does, business that sells a good that is free has no chance to survive. Sooner you understand this and begin a real work in position you supposed to hold, the better for you and all the Working Girls.

It is really simple Gwynevere if you did not understand all the previous posts, ill repeat once again slowly so you can take notes and think about it.
1. WGs sell sex service in RLC.
2. WGs used to be ONLY allowed to sell sex in RLC, that was the whole point of WG Program. To protect customers as well as WGs. That was before your times apparently so let me point this out to you.
3. WGs are not allowed in many venues, they are not even allowed in some sex themed venues unless they pay an extortion.
4. WGs sacrifice A LOT to wear that badge, in order to be legal as sex service providers.
5. How does it make something 'legal' in world where everything is allowed and legal? Label of 'legal' loses its whole sense.
6. WGs supposed to be the ONLY allowed to sell sex service in RLC, otherwise whole WG Program makes no sense.
7. Most important, read slowly Gwynevere... to fix current situation, selling sex service without a badge should be ALWAYS a violation of RLC rules, doesnt matter if its a private venue or not. Start to protect the rights of people you represent.

In addition to the last point. Did you know that currently even Protectors tell people that wearing a WG badge as a basic member is fine as long as its a private venue and the owner allows basic members with WG badges? I bet you didnt. Well it is a fact. I checked if it was true and fortunately it is not true, being in WG badge as a basic member is still NOT ALLOWED anywhere, private venue or not. So...? It is not like RLC cannot enforce the rules in private venues. It IS RLC world, where RLC rules should apply anywhere. When you are a country leader and someone forms an enclave inside of your country (club), it doesnt mean they can cancell all the laws of the country for that enclave and make their own. So stop pretending nothing can be done. Because it is a lie. It can, when you get your butt to work on the solutions. Do not send me to World Ops to do YOUR JOB. Do your job on your own, missy.

Originally Posted by: Gwynevere_RLC Go to Quoted Post
You are a member and your thoughts, opinions are highly valued as well. So my question to you is - did you take the WG survey and did you attend the WG workshop in the late part of May? The notice for that was all over the RLC. If you did not take part in it; what are your sugestions for success in the WG community ? Those would be welcome in whatever part you take in that community as a friendly WG club owner , wg , or client?

RLC improvements do not happen thru the surveys. They happen thanks to minds who see the issues where they are (and listen to opinions that are backed up reasonably) and fortunately are in position to do something to fix them. We had a survey about the Free Language enforced dimension. Did it change anything? No, people still are desperate because they dont know where whole their rlc disappeard. Be one of those minds who see the issue and fix what is broken. Hardest part - being fortunately in position to do the fix - you already got, now the easier part, use the position you have to make the change and fix what is broken for many years now.
And until you actively start working on that fix, quit telling me that my opinions are highly valued. Actions, not empty words.

Also if you think that going to a meeting where everybody shouts out their requests, opinions and demands is a better way to adress your points than forum where everyone can come, read, think and post their own opinion for everyone else to read patiently, well you need to learn a lot about RLC and simple human behaviours and the 'crowd mind'. Because what did you get from that meeting Gwynevere? New badges request to pet hookers ego lol This is whole 'profit' from your meeting. While the real problems were not even mentioned until i started posting.


Originally Posted by: Gwynevere_RLC Go to Quoted Post
Although RLC does allow for private VWW owner venues to have their own rules regarding sex worker items and if you feel those are not in the best interest of RLC; please do email worldops@redlightcenter.com and give a proposal. These are not rules the WG department makes; for those who are in Private Owned VWWs. Those rules are governed by World Ops.
I think this is all for now.

Are you serious or are you being cynical now? Firstly, as i said above, do not send me to World Ops to do YOUR JOB. It is YOUR job to go to World Ops and talk to them from the position of WG STAFF... STAFF, you are STAFF woman, so let me ask... did you become STAFF to play a big shot and more important than others or to work on RLC improvements? You send a simple rlc user to talk to World Ops adressing problems of your department? Really? LOL
How do you think, hypoteticaly, will they rather give a 2nd thought to what a simple user tells them or when a fellow Staff Member responsible for the department that the issue concers come to them to adress the issue? Get real Gwynevere.
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#20 Posted : Tuesday, July 21, 2020 7:29:35 AM(UTC)

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Originally Posted by: agnyeshka Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Gwynevere_RLC Go to Quoted Post

Answer:
There were glitches with the badges; unless you donned a badge you would not know or experience it. Those glitches were reported and are being addressed as well as others. What we might all like to forget with COVID 19, we are all faced to address a different work situation which for many means remote. Show us the same patience and politeness you like for those to show you in this pandemic situation - that is not to much to ask . We are doing the best we can; and yes there is always room for improvement. Again we are working hard.

I call bullshit. Do not hide your lazy ass behind covid now, because this is pretty disgusting what you just did... like seriously? OMG
You are not a plumber who cant fix a pipe remotely. This is all code, computer program, that can be edited, rewritten from any place in the world as long as they have access to the source. I know people in real life who fix whole systems remotely, its their job, sitting at home, getting info, getting access and fixing systems that are hundreds of miles away from them. And you try to tell me that something so simple like a few lines of the code cannot be fixed because of covid? You know... thousands of people died from this, i know people in rlc who suffer from covid now. Using covid as an excuse for years of your laziness (or simple lack of skills) is just disgusting as i said. And yes i said YEARS because as one of people here explained the glitch with badges was that once WG badge was changed to UV Business or was hidden, the red star was still above their head is not new. I remember this happening for last 10 years LOL All they had to do was to relog which takes literaly 15 seconds. And you come here and tell me that because of covid it takes time and play a victim and beg for understanding? Do you have any shame at all?

Originally Posted by: Gwynevere_RLC Go to Quoted Post
Answer: If she / he like to have a legtimate and supported WG profile and be recognized by clients as legtimate then that is why to enlist.

So all of it is just cosmetics. Label of legitimate while they do not have to be 'legitimate' to earn much more than as 'legitimate'. What you offer them is an illusion, illusion because of which they actualy lose a lot. Good luck with pretending you have ANYTHING to offer at all, while most of people who sell sex for rays basicaly pee on your whole 'work'.

Originally Posted by: Gwynevere_RLC Go to Quoted Post

Answer: I am no annoucement tube for anyone ; I am a WG staff member and have been for five years. My ideas and thoughts and opinions are highly valued and considered and implemented where appropriate - and you have seen them in the RLC.


Well congratulations, you wasted 5 years of your life because WG program turned into a joke in here and all you do, does not matter at all as long as anyone can fuck for rays without a badge. Your work makes no sense, all the effort you possibly make is worthless as long as i can go to any venue, approach a man and offer him to suck his dick if he sends me rays while i am not a WG. Do you see how pointless your whole existance in here is? Or do you refuse to open your eyes and admit... yes i suck (not as a WG should) and i must do something to fix the current situation. Currently you are like an used car salesman in a world where everybody receives a brand new car for a few bucks. Dont you see this?

If as you say your opinions are highly valued and considered and implemented where appropriate, WHY the heck dont you use your 'power' to fix the current situation with the WG business in rlc? Why are you sitting and playing a big shot and do absolutely nothing. All you do is finding new sophisticated words for a whore. To pet hookers ego who requested to be called courtesans even tho most of them probably have no idea what that word even means and who were courtesans and how highly educated, smart and intelligent one had to be to become one. I said it above, hooker is a hooker, no need to call it fancy way, the sooner you and the others understand it, the better because calling a potato 'heavenly bulb sent from gawd to feed the people of the most beautiful planet in the universe' will not change the fact its still a potato.

So Gwynevere, why dont you cut the bullshit and start doing something that will have a real impact on the WG Business in rlc? Something that will finaly fix the current situation that basicaly destroyed this program. Something that will make world work as it supposed to. Stop pretending how big work you make and how your opinions do matter and are valued until you use your 'well respected' position to fix the WG Business condition. Until then you are nothing but a figure, a statue that stands there, looks pretty, people pass you by and thats it. You have a chance to do something serious. Its up to you if you decide to act and be an hero or you decide to sit back and watch as WG Business dies. Because it does, business that sells a good that is free has no chance to survive. Sooner you understand this and begin a real work in position you supposed to hold, the better for you and all the Working Girls.

It is really simple Gwynevere if you did not understand all the previous posts, ill repeat once again slowly so you can take notes and think about it.
1. WGs sell sex service in RLC.
2. WGs used to be ONLY allowed to sell sex in RLC, that was the whole point of WG Program. To protect customers as well as WGs. That was before your times apparently so let me point this out to you.
3. WGs are not allowed in many venues, they are not even allowed in some sex themed venues unless they pay an extortion.
4. WGs sacrifice A LOT to wear that badge, in order to be legal as sex service providers.
5. How does it make something 'legal' in world where everything is allowed and legal? Label of 'legal' loses its whole sense.
6. WGs supposed to be the ONLY allowed to sell sex service in RLC, otherwise whole WG Program makes no sense.
7. Most important, read slowly Gwynevere... to fix current situation, selling sex service without a badge should be ALWAYS a violation of RLC rules, doesnt matter if its a private venue or not. Start to protect the rights of people you represent.

In addition to the last point. Did you know that currently even Protectors tell people that wearing a WG badge as a basic member is fine as long as its a private venue and the owner allows basic members with WG badges? I bet you didnt. Well it is a fact. I checked if it was true and fortunately it is not true, being in WG badge as a basic member is still NOT ALLOWED anywhere, private venue or not. So...? It is not like RLC cannot enforce the rules in private venues. It IS RLC world, where RLC rules should apply anywhere. When you are a country leader and someone forms an enclave inside of your country (club), it doesnt mean they can cancell all the laws of the country for that enclave and make their own. So stop pretending nothing can be done. Because it is a lie. It can, when you get your butt to work on the solutions. Do not send me to World Ops to do YOUR JOB. Do your job on your own, missy.

Originally Posted by: Gwynevere_RLC Go to Quoted Post
You are a member and your thoughts, opinions are highly valued as well. So my question to you is - did you take the WG survey and did you attend the WG workshop in the late part of May? The notice for that was all over the RLC. If you did not take part in it; what are your sugestions for success in the WG community ? Those would be welcome in whatever part you take in that community as a friendly WG club owner , wg , or client?

RLC improvements do not happen thru the surveys. They happen thanks to minds who see the issues where they are (and listen to opinions that are backed up reasonably) and fortunately are in position to do something to fix them. We had a survey about the Free Language enforced dimension. Did it change anything? No, people still are desperate because they dont know where whole their rlc disappeard. Be one of those minds who see the issue and fix what is broken. Hardest part - being fortunately in position to do the fix - you already got, now the easier part, use the position you have to make the change and fix what is broken for many years now.
And until you actively start working on that fix, quit telling me that my opinions are highly valued. Actions, not empty words.

Also if you think that going to a meeting where everybody shouts out their requests, opinions and demands is a better way to adress your points than forum where everyone can come, read, think and post their own opinion for everyone else to read patiently, well you need to learn a lot about RLC and simple human behaviours and the 'crowd mind'. Because what did you get from that meeting Gwynevere? New badges request to pet hookers ego lol This is whole 'profit' from your meeting. While the real problems were not even mentioned until i started posting.


Originally Posted by: Gwynevere_RLC Go to Quoted Post
Although RLC does allow for private VWW owner venues to have their own rules regarding sex worker items and if you feel those are not in the best interest of RLC; please do email worldops@redlightcenter.com and give a proposal. These are not rules the WG department makes; for those who are in Private Owned VWWs. Those rules are governed by World Ops.
I think this is all for now.

Are you serious or are you being cynical now? Firstly, as i said above, do not send me to World Ops to do YOUR JOB. It is YOUR job to go to World Ops and talk to them from the position of WG STAFF... STAFF, you are STAFF woman, so let me ask... did you become STAFF to play a big shot and more important than others or to work on RLC improvements? You send a simple rlc user to talk to World Ops adressing problems of your department? Really? LOL
How do you think, hypoteticaly, will they rather give a 2nd thought to what a simple user tells them or when a fellow Staff Member responsible for the department that the issue concers come to them to adress the issue? Get real Gwynevere.


Wow. Just wow agny. I can't even begin to address all of your statements because I am not a WG but I can tell you that I was at that meeting you scoff at and what the agenda was is far from how you painted it. In fact, you are off base in a lot of what you are posting but to go back and forth with you would be a waste of time. You have your mind set that you know better than those who have been involved in this for years so have at it. Talk about giving no respect.
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